CNN,
Feb 15, 2005
Lawmaker: Ads yield leads in bin
Laden hunt
NEW YORK (CNN) -- A U.S. television and advertising campaign
is spreading the word in Pakistan about a $25 million reward for
information leading to the capture of Osama bin Laden.
CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien talked Tuesday with U.S. Rep. Mark
Kirk, R-Illinois, who has visited Pakistan to assess the program.
O'BRIEN: Why do you think that somebody in Pakistan who hears
this ad will be motivated to turn in Osama bin Laden when heretofore
there's been no luck?
KIRK: Well, right now the area where we think he's hiding is
rural and the communities are largely illiterate. So news about
the reward program and how to come in and how safely your family
will be protected hasn't really penetrated these communities.
I'm the first congressman to go into Waziristan, where we think
bin Laden is hiding. And there I found people were avid radio
[listeners], and some also had satellite TV stations. So this
is going to be the first time many of these communities hear about
the awards program. And it's been so successful in catching other
murderers of Americans.
O'BRIEN: It has a track record. What kind of play are your commercials
going to get?
KIRK: It's going to be on six Pakistani radio networks and three
satellite TV stations and every major daily in Pakistan. So we're
getting wide coverage, with the TV commercials just starting this
morning.
O'BRIEN: When you say it's had success, give me a sense of what
kind of success it's had?
KIRK: We're getting about 12 leads a day. And this is a program
where we could get a thousand bad leads, but if we get one good
one, the program will be a success.
O'BRIEN: But 12 leads about Osama bin Laden?
KIRK: About Osama bin Laden. This is the program that got us
Ramzi Yousef, [who was the architect] of the '93 World Trade Center
bombing; Mir Aimal Kansi [a Pakistani convicted of killing two
CIA employees outside agency headquarters]; also, Saddam Hussein's
two sons. Very successful.
We've paid over $50 million in awards, but we haven't gotten
bin Laden yet, and that was why I went to Waziristan because I
saw that news of this program hadn't got out yet in this rural
community, but the radio and TV program will definitely change
the facts on the ground.
O'BRIEN: So you've been in Pakistan. What was the reaction or
-- I know it's sort of very early in on the program, but what
do you expect the reaction will be? There are many people who
would imagine a backlash actually.
KIRK: Right. Some radio networks were initially concerned about
running the ads, but now the ads are getting very good play and
generating a lot of leads. And what we're finding is the space
that bin Laden can hide in is beginning to contract. Three years
ago, he could have been anywhere among a 100 million people.
Now we think he's in a fairly confined place among just a million
people. And as we get the rewards program notices out and make
the ads more effective and more meaningful, we generate more leads.
O'BRIEN: You say a lot of leads but really 12 a day. Have any
of them come up with anything?
KIRK: Not yet. Not yet. But this is where 10,000 bad leads and
one good one leads to a good result. And for us, we want to make
this not just a program capable of nailing bin Laden, but the
other 25 top al Qaeda lieutenants, so that we complete the job
that we started on September 12, 2001.
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